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		<title>MetaGeek and Ekahau: Wi-Fi Analysis To Go</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most interesting products and companies at Interop Las Vegas 2011 were found around the edges of the show floor. Companies like NEC, Synology, Ciphertex, and Endace may have gone unnoticed in the shadows of towering booths of the industry titans but deserve attention. One such pairing was two Wi-Fi analysis companies, MetaGeek and Ekahau. Both work together to enable spectrum analysis and site surveying on portable devices - smart phones and tablets.]]></description>
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<p class="wp-caption-text" style="padding: 0 4px 5px; margin: 0;">Ekahau and MetaGeek are working together to bring Wi-Fi site surveying and spectrum analysis to the masses in a portable format</p>
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<p>The most interesting products and companies at Interop Las Vegas 2011 were found around the edges of the show floor. Companies like NEC, Synology, Ciphertex, and Endace may have gone unnoticed in the shadows of towering booths of the industry titans but deserve attention. One such pairing was two Wi-Fi analysis companies, MetaGeek and Ekahau. Both work together to enable spectrum analysis and site surveying on portable devices – smart phones and tablets.</p>
<h3>MetaGeek Makes Spectrum Accessible</h3>
<p>One of my personal favorite presentations at <a href="http://gestaltit.com/field-day/wfd1/" >Wireless Field Day</a> in March was the awesome startup tale told by Ryan Woodings, founder of MetaGeek. While working on a wireless mouse dongle, Ryan and company noticed RF interference and turned lemons into lemonade: They repurposed the USB dongle as a spectrum analyzer and started a company to make this formerly esoteric technology accessible.</p>
<p>Although MetaGeek’s Wi-Spy is nowhere near as full-featured as the big guys, it’s far more accessible at 1/10 the cost. It’s <a href="http://www.metageek.net/products/wi-spy/" >cheap enough</a> that a home hobbyist could pick one up as a way to learn about Wi-Fi and 2.4 and 5 GHz wireless spectrum. And the Windows software is easy enough that even a storage guy like me could figure out that my home Wi-Fi router was on the wrong channel.</p>
<p>At Tech Field Day, Ryan wowed the crowd with an early peek at an iPad app to interact with Wi-Spy captures. I ran into Ryan at Interop, and he showed me a more-polished version of that app, promising it would hit the App Store soon. He also hinted that an iPhone version would follow, and showed off email and Dropbox integration.<br />
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<h3>Ekahau Site Survey: Laptop to Android</h3>
<p>MetaGeek had a guest in their booth from another company I’d heard of <a href="https://www.cwnp.com/index/cwnp_wifi_blog/ekahau-mobile-survey" >from my Wi-Fi engineer friends</a>: Ekahau makes site survey products for laptops and was talking about an Android version as well. <a href="http://www.ekahau.com/products/ekahau-mobile-survey/mobile-survey-overview.html" >Ekahau’s Mobile Survey</a> supports <a href="http://www.ekahau.com/products/ekahau-mobile-survey/mobile-survey-supported-devices.html" >a variety of Android devices</a>, including the popular Samsung Galaxy Tab and Motorola Droid.<br />
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<h3>Stephen’s Stance</h3>
<p>Wireless Field Day exposed me to a whole new world of enterprise IT. The wireless engineers there spend days roaming through corporate facilities doing site surveys, planning Wi-Fi access point installations, and troubleshooting connectivity and interference. Most use Windows laptops, but it’s exciting to think that Apple iPhones and iPads and Android phones and tablets may also be used in the future. These devices are much more portable, with great battery life and interactive screens. And it looks like MetaGeek and Ekahau are leading the way. I can’t wait to get an update from these companies at Wireless Field Day 2 in early 2012!</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-39-unplugged-tech-field-day-wireless/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 39 – Unplugged on Tech Field Day Wireless</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/rich/vmware-srm-survey-free-laverick-book-unicef/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Take VMware SRM Survey, Get a Free Copy of Laverick’s Book, and Donate $10 to UNICEF</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/unplugged-show-2-virtual-access-points/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Unplugged – Show 2 – Virtual Access Points</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/stephen/fcoe-symbolism-7/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">FCoE Symbolism</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/stephen/curtis-prestons-backup-central-live/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">See W. Curtis Preston’s Backup Central Live!</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/stephen/metageek-ekahau-wifi-analysis/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>Growing Pains: Network Scaling And Maturation</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 16:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hill</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Growing from a smaller, more basic network into a more mature networking environment can impose some growing pains. Introduction of EIGRP, DMVPN, and other Cisco technologies can help to reduce the growing pains and mature into a very functional networking environment. Read on for more discussion of our moving to a more mature and scalable network.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=virtualbill.wordpress.com&#38;blog=5094844&#38;post=276&#38;subd=virtualbill&#38;ref=&#38;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I signed up with my current employer around 8 years ago, the world was a different place. We did not have much of a budget, so we relied on some creative thinking and duct tape to get the job done. The network was a much simpler place too. Every office had their own local servers and WAN traffic definitely fit a simpler profile. Planning for the future was more targeted at which products provided the most functionality at the lowest (or no) cost.</p>
<p>However, that was then and this is now. Suddenly, we have budgets and business sees value in investing in a cost-center, like IT. The business is growing. More and more traffic is passing over the WAN and the profile has changed drastically. Voice traffic, ICA/RDP, backup needs, and just plain more data is increasing the load on the network. Plus, we have new offices opening in places where getting a static IP address is extremely expensive and not realistic.</p>
<p>The network was designed a decade ago and it is becoming time to remodel so we can continue to grow. The issue becomes how. Which change is going to provide the biggest bang for our buck?</p>
<p>We have the backing and we believe we have made some core infrastructure purchases that allows us to operate right now and grow into the future.</p>
<p>So… where do we go from here?</p>
<ul>
<li>Dynamic Routing Protocol: Static routes have been great as we use a hub-and-spoke model for the time being. However, as we expand into China and Europe, the networking design will need to change and routing will become more and more important. Something like EIGRP will probably be the best fit for us.</li>
<li>Inter-office communications: Some offices have MPLS connections. Others do not… so, their communications travel all over the world to reach other offices. Being able to bring up VPN tunnels on demand to facilitate more point-to-point connectivity is going to be important. Hello DMVPN. Sure, I can create VPN configurations on each office router for other office routers, but that becomes increasingly difficult and monotonous as a new office comes onboard and the branch offices can only handle so many connections.</li>
<li>Geographic routing blocks: Conceptually, just having geographic regions in the same IP addressing area makes for simpler routing. That means re-IPing a handful of offices to meet the needs.</li>
<li>Regional hubs: Does it make sense to aggregate core services in a single location or create regional hubs and focus on higher performing hub-to-hub communications. I believe the answer is ‘Yes’!</li>
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<p>All of this is really showing me a brief glimpse into the pains and considerations that really need to take place to create a more mature networking environment. Concepts like:</p>
<ul>
<li>Router hardware limitation (CPU availability, encryption offloading, etc…)</li>
<li>Router limitations impact on network throughput</li>
<li>Resiliency design</li>
<li>Limitations and Advantages of various routing protocols</li>
<li>Packets Per Second (versus they typical Mbps style measurement)</li>
<li>plus much more!</li>
</ul>
<p>Based on my research, this is the next logical step for us to move. I am sure there are 1 million other ways to go (always open to comments). But, as long as I try to be forward looking and pay more attention to the little details, we should be good to go!</p>
<p>Implementing the options from above sounds like a lot of fun. My inner geek is squee’ing with excitement. Hopefully, these projects will turn into reality and we can begin using a smarter, larger, and more robust network in the near future.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/security/ethan/breaking-network-24-atime/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Breaking The Network, One /24 At A Time</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/craig/citrix-branch-repeater-wan-acceleration/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Citrix Branch Repeater &#8211; WAN Acceleration / Branch office in a box</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-22-configuration-management-whys-wherefores-war-stories/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show-22-Configuration Management – Whys, Wherefores and War Stories</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/ethan/highlights-trill-rfc5556/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Traveling East-West Might Get A Little Easier: Highlights from the TRILL RFC5556</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/scott/gre-tunnels-cisco-router/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">GRE Tunnels on a Cisco Router</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/bill/growing-pains-network-scaling-maturation/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>Virtual Bill&#8217;s Tech Field Day 5 Review</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 16:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hill</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tech Field Day #5 featured some amazing companies and products. While I do not want to reinvent the wheel and duplicate much of the writing that the other delegates have provided, I would like to take a moment to comment on all of the presentations. Read on for my take on the Tech Field Day #5 presenting sponsors and their respective products.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah… figures that when I get back home from Tech Field Day #5, I am completely slammed at work and home and I have barely found the time for the usual things, let alone blogging. So, while I have been away from the Virtual Bill blog, the other delegates from TFD5 have produces some amazing content based on their experiences during the presentations and the event in general. So, I am not going to re-invent the wheel… check out the links at the <a href="http://gestaltit.com/field-day/tfd5/links/" >Tech Field Day 5</a> site and read away. However, I would like to take a couple minutes to comment on the various presenters:</p>
<h3><strong>Symantec</strong></h3>
<p><strong> </strong>The first portion of the session covered the NetBackup product. While I agree that the product sounds great, I appreciate the level of detail that the presenters were able to offer. The second portion covered the BackupExec product. I am a little more familiar with this product as my day job fits perfectly in their target market. However, there was much more marketing talk in this presentation for our liking. We like details versus marketing.</p>
<p>Curtis Preston commented that the biggest mistake a backup admin can make is to rip and replace their backup solution. So, while I am not about to jump ship on what we have right now, I am going to consider making a jump to BackupExec or NetBackup when the time comes. I like what Symantec is bringing to the table and I can see why they are a/the major player in their field.</p>
<h3><strong>Drobo</strong></h3>
<p>Talk about a cool company… Drobo is just that… absolutely cool. Prior to the TFD presentation, Drobo made an announcement that they are presenting a new business oriented product, the 12-bay Drobo for Business. We were allowed to be the first group of people to see the insides of the SAN outside of Drobo employees. How cool is that! Plus, Mario is the next best thing to Billy Mays. Seriously, I think his presentation skills were great. Seeing people so enthused about their products makes the product that much more appealing.</p>
<p>I am concerned, though, about the feature set of the new line, though. I appreciate their identification of their place in the storage world. They are not trying to compete with EMC, NetApp, etc… in the corporate environment. They recognize that and target the smaller markets heavily. However, the functions and design decisions for the new business quality arrays are questionable. Making these decisions for small businesses with little/no IT staff makes some sense. However, trying to move into business areas with IT staff and no enterprise management available makes it difficult to penetrate into the environment. Plus, having single controllers with NICs built in to it makes it a difficult pill to swallow for enterprises.</p>
<p>Drobo is not going away with their existing market. But, I hope they are able to make some more business level changes to appeal to a larger business market.</p>
<h3><strong>Druva</strong></h3>
<p><strong></strong>Tech Field Day always seems to have surprises… and the introduction of a new company was great. Although, I must say that I question the “new-ness” of Druva seeing as they already have a large amount of customers in 26 countries (or so).</p>
<p>The laptop/mobile backup product they are peddling seems fairly compelling… especially the user empowerment to retrieve their own data without IT intervention. We were unable to see a proper demo of the product features as the limited network connectivity (via the MiFi) was hamstringing the demo. But, what we did see looks to be fairly cool. I really liked the thought they put into the client portion. Not only was the client deduplicating the data and sending the changes to the backup storage, but the ability to have a backup upon startup of the device was great. The startup function includes logic to wait until X amount of time after startup and for the load on the laptop to drop to a usable level. The last thing they wanted was for the backup service to start during startup and make the laptop experience horrible.</p>
<p>The ability to interact with the backup environment via an iPad is nice proof of concept. But, I did not get the sense of true functionality that the iPad provides. Until the iPad can be a backup source, I would stick to laptops.</p>
<p>Where I run into a problem is that this is a secondary tier backup environment and there needs to be a way to backup the backup. While Druva client backups are deduplicated on their server, the server files are such that makes the deduplication into a primary storage environment difficult.</p>
<p>I see the value in laptop backup and a product like Druva. But, I cannot justify the additional backup environment when many existing backup environments can handle laptop backups now. A Druva solution would be added for user convenience, but policies exist to ensure users save their data in locations that are accessible via the primary backup environment. If the Druva server died… meh.</p>
<h3><strong>Xangati</strong></h3>
<p>I am glad to see that Xangati was able to get involved with TFD! Their product is an amazing addition to the virtual admin utility belt. Seeing statistics with this much detail and history is extremely useful. Plus, being able to identify “events” and having the data available in a DVR style makes it super useful and intuitive. Not only are the events and DVR great, Xangati took the concept further and allow VDI users to create “events” when they feel the VDI environment is not working as expected. Now, the users can alert to performance issues that may become difficult to identify by the VDI admin!</p>
<p>Xangati looks like a great company for another company to pick up. My first reaction to seeing this was VMware’s acquisition of Integrien for monitoring and analysis. So, while this handles VMware well, VMware is not necessarily in the market to pick them up. I can see Citrix or Microsoft loving what they see and picking them up as a way to battle against VMware. If/when this happens, that company will have an amazing tool at their disposal.</p>
<h3><strong>NetEx (or HyperIP)</strong></h3>
<p>WAN acceleration is always something that intrigued me. Companies like Riverbed and Citrix (with WAN Scaler) make sense because they store copies of data on the device and, essentially, deduplicate the data so it is not sent across the WAN. So, the NetEx approach was interesting. In my network-light world, using UDP and aggregating the data into larger chunks is an interesting method.</p>
<p>NetEx used beer as an analogy for what they do. Normal networks send data in beer bottles. However, rather than send beer bottles around and track all of them, NetEx sends the beer in a keg and pushes the keg around the network. Then, once it reaches the destination network, HyperIP will break the kegs back into bottles. That made perfect sense to me! Plus, they left the beer for those drinkers in our group!</p>
<p>I am not entirely sure where this would fit in my everyday life. But, based on my simpleton reaction to their product and the network guys like of the product, I think there is definitely something to it.</p>
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<h3><strong>Infoblox</strong></h3>
<p>This was the most difficult presentation for me to sit through… reason being that I really felt like they were creating FUD around what is a fairly simple issue… assigning IP addresses and DNS. Plus, it took forever to get to that point. However, once the fluff was pushed aside, the Infoblox product looks great. With a simple demo, the true value of their product really stepped forward and I began to see how it may fit in an environment like my everyday workplace.</p>
<h3><strong>HP</strong></h3>
<p>The HP presentations were very interesting. The first presentation dealt with HP’s commitment to standards and modularity to ensure convergence in the datacenter. However, that was short lived as the following presentations dealt with their new deduplication product which appeared to become a proprietary solution (not quite in line with their standards in the datacenter) and some proprietary networking.</p>
<p>Coming into Tech Field Day, I was really amped to hear what HP was going to present on… especially with our being on their corporate campus. I was a little let down with what I saw and that most of the speakers were in the Marketing department.</p>
<p>However, the datacenter tour at the end of the day was really valuable. I was able to ask some questions of the datacenter manager about different product lines. I must admit that I am not an active HP customer. So, I was a little naive as to what they offered.</p>
<h3>Conclusion</h3>
<p>Tech Field Day #5 was amazing. The group of delegates I was surrounded by were amazing and I walked away with so much information from them and because of them. I appreciate all of the presentations and the time/resources that the presenting companies provided to have us onsite. I cannot wait to see what happens to the companies and the products they presented!</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/ethan/seattle-tech-field-day-2010-presentations-1/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">GestaltIT.com Seattle Tech Field Day July 2010 – Presentations Overview Part 1 of 2</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/stephen/podcast-2-tech-field-day-drobo-roundtable/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Podcast 2: Tech Field Day Drobo Roundtable</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/stephen/data-robotics-presents-tech-field-day/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Data Robotics Is First Three-Time Tech Field Day Presenter</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/stephen/druva-launches-tech-field-day-5/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Druva Launches at Tech Field Day 5</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/stephen/netex-joins-roster-tech-field-day-presenters/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">NetEx Joins the Roster of Tech Field Day Presenters</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/bill/tech-field-day-5-opinions/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>Show 40 – Openflow – Upending the Network Industry</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This show is an introduction to OpenFlow &#8211; the why, how and what&#8217;s it gonna do ?  We discuss OpenFlow with Matt Davey from Indiana University who is using OpenFlow enabled switches and wireless access points today. The concept of a controller based LAN network is a powerful idea, and the OpenFlow Network Foundation has [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This show is an introduction to OpenFlow – the why, how and what’s it gonna do ?  We discuss OpenFlow with Matt Davey from Indiana University who is using OpenFlow enabled switches and wireless access points today.</p>
<p>The concept of a controller based LAN network is a powerful idea, and the OpenFlow Network Foundation has participation from large networking vendors, large cloud providers and big data companies such as Google, Facebook, Yahoo and so forth. This provides some validation that the technology is of keen interest.</p>
<p>Recently, venture capital funding has been moving into startups working on this technology.</p>
<p>Ivan and Greg both agree that this is potentially a game changing technology, especially for cloud networking with the potential to disrupt significant parts of the networking industry.</p>
<h1>Show Notes</h1>
<p>You can <a rel="nofollow" href="http://iunetworking.blogspot.com/" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','iunetworking.blogspot.com']);" >Matt Davey’s blog</a> here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.openflow.org/" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','www.openflow.org']);" rel="nofollow"  target="_blank">OpenFlow Website</a> <a href="http://www.networkcomputing.com/next-gen-network/openflow-coming-to-interopnet-labs.php" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','www.networkcomputing.com']);" rel="nofollow"  target="_blank">Openflow coming to Interop</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/stanfordopenflow" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','www.youtube.com']);" >Openflow project at Stanford Uni</a> recorded a number of videos which have great demonstrations of where the product is today.</p>
<p>Greg’s article on TCAM <a href="http://etherealmind.com/tcam-detail-review/" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','etherealmind.com']);" >can be found here</a></p>
<p>Venture capitals has funded <a href="http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2011/03/31/big-switch-networks-raises-138m.html" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','www.bizjournals.com']);" >Big Switch</a> to develop software in this are.</p>
<p>This company <a href="http://www.iwnetworks.com/" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','www.iwnetworks.com']);" >iwNetworks</a> makes switch hardware for Cloud networks.</p>
<p>Details on the OpenVswitch and their <a href="http://www.openflow.org/wp/2009/09/open-vswitch-announced-with-openflow-support/" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','www.openflow.org']);" >announced support for OpenFlow</a>. This is hugely interesting if you are a cloud provider and the ability to tie your virtual switches with the configuration of the your physical switches is a powerful tool. Open vSwitch is an equivalent</p>
<h1>Speakers</h1>
<p>You can <a rel="nofollow" href="http://iunetworking.blogspot.com/" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','iunetworking.blogspot.com']);" >Matt Davey’s blog</a> here.</p>
<h2>Name: Ivan Pepelnjak</h2>
<p>Web: <a href="http://blog.ioshints.info" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','blog.ioshints.info']);"  target="_blank">http://blog.ioshints.info</a> Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@ioshints" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','twitter.com']);" rel="nofollow"  target="_blank">@ioshints</a></p>
<h2>Name: Greg Ferro</h2>
<p>Web: <a href="http://etherealmind.com" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','etherealmind.com']);"  target="_blank">www.etherealmind.com</a>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@etherealmind" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','twitter.com']);" rel="nofollow"  target="_blank">@etherealmind</a></p>
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<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-25-omniscient-logic-hp-networking-data-centre/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 25 – Omniscient Logic – HP Networking in the Data Centre</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-28-skills-business/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 28 – IT Is About SKILLS Not Business</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-38-comparing-data-centre-fabrics-juniper-brocade-cisco/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 38 – Comparing Data Centre Fabrics From Juniper, Brocade and Cisco</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-35-media-markup-garden-switches/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 35 – Media Markup – A Garden of Switches</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/unplugged-show-4-ipads/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Unplugged – Show 4 – Too Many iPads</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-40-openflow-upending-network-industry/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>Show 39 – Unplugged on Tech Field Day Wireless</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 16:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rise in mobile devices such as iPads, HP tablets and more means that Wireless Networking is becoming part of the mainstream for network engineers. You can&#8217;t ignore it anymore. When we got an invitation to the very first ever Wireless Tech Field Day in San Jose on March 17 &#038; 18 , then we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rise in mobile devices such as iPads, HP tablets and more means that Wireless Networking is becoming part of the mainstream for network engineers. You can’t ignore it anymore. When we got an invitation to the  <a href="http://gestaltit.com/field-day/2011-wireless/" >very first ever Wireless Tech Field Day</a> in San Jose on March 17 &amp; 18 , then we all packet our bags and headed out.</p>
<p>Greg got to meet Tom for the first time, and bunch of other wireless nerds (<a href="http://gestaltit.com/field-day/2011-wireless/" >Full List</a> and talk networking. To wrap it up we recorded this show where we gove the Packet Pushers critical eye on the products and the presentations, talk about what we loved and hated, some of the interesting parts of the show.</p>
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<li>comparing the Spectrum Analysis tools from Air Magnet, Metageek (WiSpy) and discussing which one is best suited to different markets.</li>
<li>A look at wireless controller networking and the fact that wireless manufacturers are moving towards distributed solutions and that companies like Aerohive are part of that move.</li>
<li>Some info the HP and Cisco wireless networking products including discussion 3×3 wireless stadanrd</li>
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<p>You can find the Metageek training videos on their WiSpy products <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/metageektrent" rel="nofollow" >on Youtube by metageektrent</a>.</p>
<p>You can Jennifer Huber’s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5-NUK5su1w" rel="nofollow" >Comparison video of MetaGeek and Air Magnet</a> .</p>
<p>Greg’s post at EtherealMind.com on <a href="http://etherealmind.com/controller-based-networks-for-data-centres/" >Controller based networks </a> and might be worth contrasting with the move away from controller based networks in wireless <a href="http://etherealmind.com/wireless-lan-controller-aerohive-big-boner-access-points/" >AeroHive, HP, ‘Big Boner’ AP’s and Wireless LAN Controllers</a></p>
<h1>Guests</h1>
<p><strong>Jennifer Huber </strong> is  <a href="http://twitter.com/etherealmind" >@jenniferlucille</a> and her blog <a rel="nofollow" href="http://jenniferhuber.blogspot.com/" >http://jenniferhuber.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Chris Lyttle  | Twitter: <a href="http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/j53Bdaad_MU/wifikiwi.com" rel="nofollow" >wifikiwi.com</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/wifikiwi" rel="nofollow" >@wifikiwi</a></p>
<p>Tom Hollingsworth <a rel="nofollow" href="http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com/" >http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com</a> | Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@networkingnerd" rel="nofollow" >@NetworkingNerd</a></p>
<h1>Presenting Sponsors</h1>
<p>Here are the presenting companies from the Wireless Tech Field Day:</p>
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<td width="40%" align="right" valign="center"><a href="http://www.aerohive.com/" ><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-13064" title="Aerohive logo" src="http://static.gestaltit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Aerohive.jpg" alt="" width="100" /></a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://www.aerohive.com/" >Aerohive</a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://twitter.com/Aerohive" >@Aerohive</a></td>
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<td width="40%" align="right" valign="center"><a href="http://airmagnet.com/" ><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-13064" title="AirMagnet logo" src="http://static.gestaltit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/AirMagnet.jpg" alt="" width="100" /></a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://airmagnet.com/" >AirMagnet</a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://twitter.com/AirMagnet_Inc" >@AirMagnet_Inc</a></td>
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<td width="40%" align="right" valign="center"><a href="http://www.flukenetworks.com/" ><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-13064" title="Fluke Networks logo" src="http://static.gestaltit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/FlukeNetworks.jpg" alt="" width="100" /></a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://www.flukenetworks.com/" >Fluke Networks</a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://twitter.com/FlukeNetworks" >@FlukeNetworks</a></td>
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<td width="40%" align="right" valign="center"><a href="http://www.hp.com/go/networking" rel="nofollow" ><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-13064" title="HP logo" src="http://static.gestaltit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HP_Networking.jpg" alt="" width="100" /></a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://www.hp.com/go/networking" rel="nofollow" >HP</a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://twitter.com/HP_Networking" >@HP_Networking</a></td>
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<td width="40%" align="right" valign="center"><a href="http://www.metageek.net/" ><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-13064" title="MetaGeek logo" src="http://static.gestaltit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/MetaGeek.jpg" alt="" width="100" /></a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://www.metageek.net/" >MetaGeek</a></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://twitter.com/MetaGeek" >@MetaGeek</a></td>
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<td width="40%" align="right" valign="center"></td>
<td width="40%" align="left" valign="center"><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/index.html" >Cisco Wireless</a></td>
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		<title>Rant: Why SPB Doesn&#8217;t Get Any Attention</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone made a comment that Packet Pushers hasn't discussed SPB as alternative to TRILL or other Fabric solutions. Here's why.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone made a comment that <a href="http://packetpushers.net" rel="nofollow"  target="_blank">Packet Pushers</a> hasn&#8217;t discussed SPB.</p>
<h2>Trusting the IEEE ?</h2>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust the IEEE to transparently develop and deliver a standard. It&#8217;s closed forums, secret meetings, and lack of transparency are a major concern.</p>
<p>Add that to very poor results for delivering standards in timely fashion e.g. IEEE 802.11 and you have a secret cabal run by organisations with significant vested interests who have to work together and produce something that everyone want  ? Evidence says this isn&#8217;t working well and hasn&#8217;t worked well for the last twenty years. Ethernet is success in spite of the IEEE, not because of it.</p>
<h2>Capability ?</h2>
<p>In my view, SPB has little to offer data centre architecture. While it may eventually work, after ten years of development so far &amp; more to go, offer a solution for carriers in the MAN/WAN space, it sacrifices function in the name of legacy capability. Moreover, TRILL and other Fabric solutions will have long since bypassed SPB by the time the IEEE process spits out it&#8217;s final papers.</p>
<h2>Corporate Funding</h2>
<p>SPB certainly suits the business models of Avaya and Huawei / HP because it doesn&#8217;t require investment in new silicon. You can just hack the existing silicon and make do. It&#8217;s a cheap, and ultimately short term business decision to support second rate technology in my view.</p>
<h2>Supporters are Bit Players</h2>
<p>Avaya isn&#8217;t a global player, nor is Huawei. While locally significant in certain geographies, I don&#8217;t see that either company will be able to create a leadership position in the ethernet marketplace. The decision by Avaya / Huawei to use SPB is based on internal cost because cash flows are tight not because it&#8217;s a better choice.</p>
<p>If HP makes a significant launch (hasn&#8217;t happened yet), then it probably won&#8217;t change much. My guess is that It&#8217;ll be too late.</p>
<h2>Poor Outreach and Information Support</h2>
<p>As evidence for &#8220;bit players&#8221;, I have never received any information regarding Avaya or Huawei, nor am I able to find any meaningful technical information on the product, technology or strategy. Aside from a few briefings from Ashwood-Smith of Huawei from public events, there is no information available.</p>
<p>Despite attempting to contact people involved with SPB a few months ago, no one has bothered to make the time to set a time to speak and record on the topic. Given the the Packet Pushers audience and reach into the Enterprise is much larger than UKNOF, or NANOG conferences, this suggests that no one really cares.</p>
<h2>No Demand</h2>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had a single listener or person ever ask me about SPB. While I have done _some_ research, it&#8217;s obviously not a topic of interest to anyone in my audience.</p>
<h1>The Etherealmind View</h1>
<p>So, if anyone cares about SPB, here is your chance. Speak up in the comments and I&#8217;ll take your views on board. If anyone cares, then we can put them on Packet Pushers and see what they have to say.</p>
<p>For or against. Happy to hear from people who don&#8217;t care, as well as those who do.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-35-media-markup-garden-switches/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 35 – Media Markup – A Garden of Switches</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-23-love-questions/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 23 – We Love the Love and Love Your Questions</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/runt-packet-6-force10-networks/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Runt Packet No 6 – Force10 Networks</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/dcb-cee-dce-term-2/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">DCB, CEE or DCE ? Whose term is best ?</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/virtualization/bas/virtualization-cares-hardware-operating-system/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Virtualization makes me say “Who cares about your hardware or operating system?!”</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/spb-attention/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>Show 38 – Comparing Data Centre Fabrics From Juniper, Brocade and Cisco</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt Bales has a customer who wants to buy a new Data Centre Network and the three main networking vendors (Juniper, Cisco &amp; Brocade) have pitched at him and the customer. Kurt then contacted the Pushers and said “This would make a great podcast to talk about how it looks, works and the reality of the so-called “Data Centre Fabric networks, plus I’ve got some questions that I’d like to get some second opinions.”</p>
<p>So we rounded up Ivan from IOS Hints and Greg from EtherealMind to record a fast, furious and focussed look at the state of play with the three data centre fabrics today. Lots of speculation, wild guesses and deep diving followed. I learned heaps.</p>
<p>Topics that we covered: * data centre fabric design, TRILL, Borg or Big Brother approaches, * FCoE, iSCSI, NFS, Routing, * Juniper, QFX 3500, QFabric, ERX, ICN, * Brocade, VDX, VCS, FSPF, * Cisco, Nexus 7000, Nexus 5000,</p>
<h2>Name: Ivan Pepelnjak</h2>
<p>Web: <a href="http://blog.ioshints.net" rel="nofollow" >http://blog.ioshints.net </a> Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@ioshints" rel="nofollow" >@ioshints</a></p>
<h2>Name: Kurt Bales</h2>
<p>Web: <a href="http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/rFJlwc-SB3c/www.network-janitor.net" rel="nofollow" >www.network-janitor.net</a> Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@networkjanitor" rel="nofollow" >@networkjanitor</a></p>
<h2>Name: Greg Ferro</h2>
<p>Web: <a href="http://etherealmind.com" >www.etherealmind.com</a>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@etherealmind" rel="nofollow" >@etherealmind</a></p>
<h2>Links and Posts</h2>
<p>This post is where Ivan looks into TRILL and STP interaction at the edge of the L2 network. <a href="http://blog.ioshints.info/2011/03/trillfabric-path-stp-integration.html" >IOSHints TRILL/FABRIC PATH – STP INTEGRATION</a></p>
<p>Here is the post where Ivan outlines the Borg / Big Brother architectures.  <a href="http://blog.ioshints.info/2011/03/data-center-fabric-architectures.html" >THE DATA CENTER FABRIC ARCHITECTURES </a></p>
<p>Brad Hedlund’s post on  <a href="http://bradhedlund.com/2011/03/16/inverse-virtualization-for-internet-scale-applications/" rel="nofollow" >Inverse Virtualisation</a> – it seems Cisco might be forgetting that  there is more than one way to do it and Brad talks about the the other ways to do it while pointing out that the way HE does it is best. Keep up the good work Brad and stay “on message” for Cisco – keep pulling for the team.</p>
<p>Greg’s post at EtherealMind.com on <a href="http://etherealmind.com/controller-based-networks-for-data-centres/" rel="nofollow" >Controller based networks </a> and might be worth contrasting with the move away from controller based networks in wireless <a href="http://etherealmind.com/wireless-lan-controller-aerohive-big-boner-access-points/" rel="nofollow" >AeroHive, HP, ‘Big Boner’ AP’s and Wireless LAN Controllers</a></p>
<h1>Feedback</h1>
<p>Follow the Packet Pushers on Twitter (<a href="http://twitter.com/packetpushers" rel="nofollow" >@packetpushers</a> | Greg <a href="http://twitter.com/etherealmind" >@etherealmind</a> | <a href="http://twitter.com/@networkingnerd" rel="nofollow" >Tom Hollingsworth</a>), and send your queries &amp; comments about the show to <a href="http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/d?k=01PXBswO9zvvo5iVXzid46cA==&amp;c=NzdsfjGUust2TSE8JNRgWzB_7o58GKWhrTrCJFhLaCY=" >packetpushers@gmail.com</a>.  We want to hear from you!</p>
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<p>You can subscribe to the <a href="feed://feeds.packetpushers.net/PacketPushersPodcast" >RSS feed</a> or head over to the <a rel="nofollow">Packet Pushers</a> website to download the MP3 file directly from the blog post for that episode.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-28-vcloud-network-overlays-otv-vepa-networking-appliances/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 28 – vCloud Network Overlays, OTV, VEPA and Networking Appliances</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-27-layer-2-data-centre-interconnection/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 27 – Layer 2 Data Centre Interconnection</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-35-media-markup-garden-switches/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 35 – Media Markup – A Garden of Switches</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-37-ipv6-ready-week/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 37 – Even More IPv6 Ready Than Last Week</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/unplugged-show-3-fittest-engineers/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Unplugged – Show 3 – The Fittest Engineers Ever</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-38-comparing-data-centre-fabrics-juniper-brocade-cisco/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>Show 37 – Even More IPv6 Ready Than Last Week</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 23:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A short episode this week because of the daylight savings change in the US and Greg didn&#8217;t schedule things correctly. Guests Terry Slattery http://www.netcraftsmen.net Tom Hollingsworth http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com &#124; Twitter: @NetworkingNerd John McManus http://etherealmind.com/author/mcmanusj/ &#124; Twitter: @_johnmcmanus_ Matthew Norwood http://networktherapy.wordpress.com @matthewnorwood and last, and the very least. Greg Ferro http://etherealmind.com&#124; Twitter @etherealmind Topic 1 &#8211; Cisco UC [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A short episode this week because of the daylight savings change in the US and Greg didn’t schedule things correctly.</p>
<h1>Guests</h1>
<p>Terry Slattery <a href="http://www.netcraftsmen.net" rel="nofollow" >http://www.netcraftsmen.net</a></p>
<p>Tom Hollingsworth <a rel="nofollow" href="http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com/" >http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com</a> | Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@networkingnerd" rel="nofollow" >@NetworkingNerd</a></p>
<p>John McManus <a href="http://etherealmind.com/author/mcmanusj/" >http://etherealmind.com/author/mcmanusj/</a> | Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@_johnmcmanus_" rel="nofollow" >@_johnmcmanus_</a></p>
<p>Matthew Norwood <a href="http://networktherapy.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow" >http://networktherapy.wordpress.com</a> <a href="&quot;http://twitter.com/matthewnorwood%20%E2%80%9D%20" rel="nofollow" >@matthewnorwood</a></p>
<p>and last, and the very least.</p>
<p>Greg Ferro <a href="http://etherealmind.com" rel="nofollow" >http://etherealmind.com</a>| Twitter <a href="http://twitter.com/etherealmind" >@etherealmind</a></p>
<h1>Topic 1 – Cisco UC or Microsoft Lyncs</h1>
<p>What’s the difference ? Does anyone care ?</p>
<p><a href="http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9742864" rel="nofollow" >http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9742864</a></p>
<p><a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg293124.aspx" rel="nofollow" >http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg293124.aspx</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/index.html" rel="nofollow" >http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/index.html</a></p>
<h1>Topic 2 – Data Cabling</h1>
<p>Talking more about MPO cabling and data centre cabling design. Which led into a discussion about data centre floors, power density, suspended cabling floors, contained hot or cold aisles and other related topics.</p>
<p>Greg had a blog post <a href="http://etherealmind.com/notes-physical-connectors-40-100-gigabit-ethernet/" rel="nofollow" >http://etherealmind.com/notes-physical-connectors-40-100-gigabit-ethernet/</a>.</p>
<h1>Topic 3 – IPv6 and NAT</h1>
<p>Because we haven’t discussed it enough yet.</p>
<p>Carrier Grade NAT. Deep Packet Inspection and the pathways is forces onto the traffic flows.</p>
<h1>Topic 4 – Designing the Network from the Ground Up</h1>
<p>How do you approach design a network form the ground up ?</p>
<h1>Feedback</h1>
<p>Follow the Packet Pushers on Twitter (<a href="http://twitter.com/packetpushers" rel="nofollow" >@packetpushers</a> | Greg <a href="http://twitter.com/etherealmind" >@etherealmind</a> | <a href="http://twitter.com/@networkingnerd" rel="nofollow" >Tom Hollingsworth</a>), and send your queries &amp; comments about the show to <a href="http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/d?k=01PXBswO9zvvo5iVXzid46cA==&amp;c=NzdsfjGUust2TSE8JNRgWzB_7o58GKWhrTrCJFhLaCY=" >packetpushers@gmail.com</a>.  We want to hear from you!</p>
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<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/ppp-show-36-ipv6-ready/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">PPP Show 36 – IPv6 Ready</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-34-breaking-layer-model/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 34 – Breaking the Three Layer Model</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-31-dont-take-too-seriously/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 31 – Don’t Take It Too Seriously</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-35-media-markup-garden-switches/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 35 – Media Markup – A Garden of Switches</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/unplugged-show-3-fittest-engineers/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Unplugged – Show 3 – The Fittest Engineers Ever</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-37-ipv6-ready-week/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<itunes:summary>A short episode this week because of the daylight savings change in the US and Greg didn’t schedule things correctly. Guests Terry Slattery http://www.netcraftsmen.net Tom Hollingsworth http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com | Twitter: @NetworkingNerd John McManus http://etherealmind.com/author/mcmanusj/ | Twitter: @_johnmcmanus_ Matthew Norwood http://networktherapy.wordpress.com @matthewnorwood and last, and the very least. Greg FerroÂ http://etherealmind.com| Twitter @etherealmind Topic 1 – Cisco UC [...]</itunes:summary>
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		<title>PPP Show 36 – IPv6 Ready</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guests Tom Hollingsworth http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com &#124; Twitter: @NetworkingNerd John McManus http://etherealmind.com/author/mcmanusj/ &#124; Twitter: @_johnmcmanus_ Greg Ferro http://etherealmind.com&#124; Twitter @etherealmind Topic 1 &#8211; iPad 2 Apparently none of us are going to buy one, because we&#8217;ve already got one. Topic 2 &#8211; What is Cloud Computing Although we tire of talking about Cloud Computing, it&#8217;s seem that there [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Guests</h1>
<p>Tom Hollingsworth <a rel="nofollow" href="http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com/" >http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com</a> | Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@networkingnerd" rel="nofollow" >@NetworkingNerd</a></p>
<p>John McManus <a href="http://etherealmind.com/author/mcmanusj/" >http://etherealmind.com/author/mcmanusj/</a> | Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@_johnmcmanus_" rel="nofollow" >@_johnmcmanus_</a></p>
<p>Greg Ferro <a href="http://etherealmind.com" rel="nofollow" >http://etherealmind.com</a>| Twitter <a href="http://twitter.com/etherealmind" >@etherealmind</a></p>
<h2 id="topic1-ipad2">Topic 1 – iPad 2</h2>
<p>Apparently none of us are going to buy one, because we’ve already got one.</p>
<h2 id="topic2-whatiscloudcomputing">Topic 2 – What is Cloud Computing</h2>
<p>Although we tire of talking about Cloud Computing, it’s seem that there is more to say. Talking about what building you own cloud is about including accounting/budgeting problems and server/networking operation problems. We also talk about the lack of bandwidth and a wide range of other topics.</p>
<h2 id="topic3-catalyst6500servicesmodulestrategy">Topic 3 – Catalyst 6500 Services module strategy</h2>
<p>What’s the future of Cisco Cat6500 services modules strategy since the current modules are obviously not scaling to the future. Is the Nexus 7000 suitable for use in the Campus ?</p>
<p>Somehow we deviated into a discussion about the relevance of the ASR 1K/9K routers and their fit into a network design.</p>
<h2 id="topic4-ipv6readyprogram">Topic 4 – IPv6 Ready program</h2>
<p>A look at the <a href="http://www.ipv6ready.org/" >http://www.ipv6ready.org/</a> program which led into a discussion around how to deploy IPv6 into an enterprise (hint: it’s doesn’t involve deploying IPv6).</p>
<h2 id="topic5techfielddaywireless">Topic 5 Tech Field Day Wireless</h2>
<p>I’ll be in San Jose for the <a href="http://gestaltit.com/field-day/2011-wireless/" rel="nofollow" >http://gestaltit.com/field-day/2011-wireless/</a> Gestalt IT Tech Field Day. Tom Hollngswoth and Mat Norwood (regular guests on the show) are also</p>
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<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-37-ipv6-ready-week/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 37 – Even More IPv6 Ready Than Last Week</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-34-breaking-layer-model/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 34 – Breaking the Three Layer Model</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-35-media-markup-garden-switches/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 35 – Media Markup – A Garden of Switches</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-31-dont-take-too-seriously/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 31 – Don’t Take It Too Seriously</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/unplugged-show-2-virtual-access-points/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Unplugged – Show 2 – Virtual Access Points</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/ppp-show-36-ipv6-ready/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<itunes:subtitle>Guests Tom Hollingsworth http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com | Twitter: @NetworkingNerd John McManus http://etherealmind.com/author/mcmanusj/ | Twitter: @_johnmcmanus_ Greg FerroÂ http://etherealmind.com| Twitter @etherealmind Topic 1 – iPad 2 Apparent...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Guests Tom Hollingsworth http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com | Twitter: @NetworkingNerd John McManus http://etherealmind.com/author/mcmanusj/ | Twitter: @_johnmcmanus_ Greg FerroÂ http://etherealmind.com| Twitter @etherealmind Topic 1 – iPad 2 Apparently none of us are going to buy one, because we’ve already got one. Topic 2 – What is Cloud Computing Although we tire of talking about Cloud Computing, it’s seem that there [...]</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 35 – Media Markup – A Garden of Switches</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is Packet Pushers Media Mungle, new format were we gather people from from the technology media to sit down around the virtual workbench and look back at events with beady media eye. We’ll take closer look at what’s been happening and discuss what’s happening in a little bit more detail. We got a list of topics to discuss and here is who’s who in the zoo today.]]></description>
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<p><strong>This is Packet Pushers <em>Media Mungle</em></strong>, new format were we gather people from from the technology media to sit down around the virtual workbench and look back at events with beady media eye. We’ll take closer look at what’s been happening and discuss what’s happening in a little bit more detail. We got a list of topics to discuss and here is who’s who in the zoo today.</p>
<h1 id="guests">Guests</h1>
<p>Mike Fratto, Editor, Network Computing. <a href="http://networkcomputing.com" rel="nofollow" >networkcomputing.com</a> | Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/@mfratto" rel="nofollow" >@ mfratto </a></p>
<p>Shamus McGillicuddy, Director of News and Features for  <a href="http://searchnetworking.com" rel="nofollow" >searchnetworking.com</a> | Twitter : <a href="http://twitter.com/@shamustt" rel="nofollow" >@shamustt</a></p>
<h1 id="mattersathand">Matters At Hand</h1>
<p>Juniper QFabric and it’s impact on the market</p>
<p>Cisco SecureX strategy – is there a plan ? First it was Borderless Networks, now it’s SecureX. Along the way we lost a lot of products, and seen a lot of delays.</p>
<p>Any news from Brocade ? Nah, still nothing.</p>
<p>There is also the Huawei/Symantec and Force10 deal which could be interesting. Breathes some life into Force10</p>
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<p>You can subscribe to the <a href="feed://feeds.packetpushers.net/PacketPushersPodcast" >RSS feed</a> or head over to the <a rel="nofollow">Packet Pushers</a> website to download the MP3 file directly from the blog post for that episode.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-32-media-mungle/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 32 – Media Mungle</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/unplugged-show-3-fittest-engineers/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Unplugged – Show 3 – The Fittest Engineers Ever</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/unplugged-show-4-ipads/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Unplugged – Show 4 – Too Many iPads</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-31-dont-take-too-seriously/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 31 – Don’t Take It Too Seriously</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-28-skills-business/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 28 – IT Is About SKILLS Not Business</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-35-media-markup-garden-switches/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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