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		<title>Coping Mechanisms For A Lying ARP Cache</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ethan Banks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caches can be guilty of storing bad data. When they first learned their data, they had learned truth. But as a cache’s data ages, the possibility increases that the cached data becomes stale: out of sync with reality. When cache gives you stale data, it’s lying: a stiff penalty we sometimes pay for performance.]]></description>
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<h3>I Swear To Tell The Truth</h3>
<p>Prevarication. Untruths. Misdirection. Deceit. Call it what you will, lying is ugly. While we expect lying from people (there’s an <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.fox.com/lietome/"  target="_blank">American TV show</a> built around this premise), we expect our network gear to tell only the truth. The command line is supposed to a bastion of honesty. And indeed, the command line will tell you exactly what its perception of reality is. The magic (and our job as engineers) is determining when the device in question is woefully misguided…when what it thinks it knows is no longer true.</p>
<p>Caches can be guilty of storing bad data. When they first learned their data, they had learned truth. But as a cache’s data ages, the possibility increases that the cached data becomes stale: out of sync with reality. When cache gives you stale data, it’s lying: a stiff penalty we sometimes pay for performance.</p>
<h3>In Your Stack, Improving Your Performance</h3>
<p>In networking, practically all network stacks have an <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Resolution_Protocol"  target="_blank">address resolution protocol</a> (ARP) <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cache"  target="_blank">cache</a> as a standard feature. What is ARP used for? Simply stated, ARP discovers the link-layer <em>(think Ethernet MAC)</em> address when only the network layer <em>(think IP address)</em> is known. <em>Keep in mind that ARP isn’t specific to IP or to Ethernet; various flavors of ARP are used with other network protocols and transports. For this discussion, we’ll assume Ethernet and IPv4, though.</em></p>
<p>Well okay, I’m with you so far…but WHY do we need to know what the link-layer address is? I mean, who cares? A host can know the IP address of another host he wishes to communicate with, but that’s not enough information to send a packet across the network wire. In addition to the remote IP address, the host must be able to build a link-layer frame of a type appropriate for the network media to which the host is connected. In the vast majority of today’s LANs, that media is Ethernet.  So inside of an *Ethernet* frame will go the IP packet. ARP is used to discover the Ethernet MAC address of a remote IP address necessary for the destination MAC component of the Ethernet frame. Still with me? Good.</p>
<p>Next step then…what is ARP *cache* used for?  Like any cache, an ARP cache stores MAC-IP mappings, so that the next time the host needs to send an IP packet to that destination IP address, the Ethernet destination MAC is already known. An network ARP request is not required before the creation of the frame wrapper if the requisite destination MAC can be pulled out of ARP cache. Naturally, this improves network performance as a whole.</p>
<ul>
<li>ARP requests are broadcasts. Broadcasts, by definition, are sent to all hosts on a network segment. The higher the volume of broadcasts on a segment, the lower the overall segment performance (think aggregate throughput). ARP cache helps reduce the number of broadcasts.</li>
<li>ARP queries take longer to send and get a response than doing a lookup against a local cache. Again, a performance boost.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Show Me Your ARP Cache</h3>
<p>Would you like to see the ARP cache on your network-attached device?</p>
<ul>
<li>On a Windows host, type “<strong>arp -a</strong>“.</li>
<li>On a *NIX host, type “<strong>arp -an</strong>“.</li>
<li>On a Cisco router or layer 3 switch, type “<strong>show ip arp</strong>” or “<strong>show ip arp vlan X</strong>” where X is your VLAN number of choice.</li>
</ul>
<p>I’ll spare you the command output, because they all look similar: a list of IPs with associated MAC addresses that are currently stored in the device’s ARP cache.</p>
<h3>Why Did The New Core Switch Break The Network?</h3>
<p>Very early this past Saturday morning, I was remotely guiding a core switch upgrade for a small data center several hours distant from me. I’d built the switch and shipped it to the site, where one of the local engineers had racked and powered it. The maintenance window was to move the cables over from the scary 10 year old switch that made me nervous every time I did a “wr mem” to the shiny new one. The core switch being replaced acted as the router for all the VLANs at this site. This was not a “dual core” design, where the core switch was one of a pair of switches acting as backups of one another. Rather, this core switch was *it*; without this switch, intervlan traffic was impossible, as no other device on the network was providing routing services.</p>
<p>Being remote and having no <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdoor_(computing)"  target="_blank">backdoor</a>, I was relying on the local engineer to tell me what was going on. Moving the cables was the easy bit. All the fiber uplinking remote access switches was moved over without incident; all the lights were green. The copper to move over the Internet border firewalls was similarly successful. Shortly thereafter, the IPSEC site-to-site tunnel I needed to access the site reconnected, and I was able to log into the shiny new core switch. After resolving some anticipated speed/duplex and trunk issues, we still found that a number of hosts were unable to talk outside of their local VLAN. Hmm…</p>
<p>Now, this was not my first rodeo. I’ve replaced a few routers and switches in my day. Stale ARP caches telling lies and lies and lies is an annoying issue that can really get your knickers in a twist if you don’t know what’s going on. However, I was expecting (and dreading) this very circumstance.</p>
<p>Let’s say you’ve got host 10.100.100.10 in Vlan 100 needing to talk to some host outside of Vlan 100. Now, before the core switch replacement, this worked fine. 10.100.100.10 knew that to talk to someone outside Vlan 100, he’d need to forward that intervlan traffic to his default gateway, let’s say 10.100.100.254, where it would be routed. 10.100.100.10 also had an ARP cache entry that told him what the MAC of 10.100.100.254 was, because sometime earlier, he’d put an ARP request on the wire, asking for the MAC of 10.100.100.254, to which the core switch had responded. With that information readily in his ARP cache, 10.100.100.10 would merely need to peek inside his cache, pull out the appropriate MAC, and then wrap his outbound IP packet in an Ethernet frame bound for the MAC of 10.100.100.254 to obtain routing services. Life was grand whenever he needed to communicate with far away subnets.</p>
<p>That is, right up until I replaced the ancient core switch with a new one. “Now I done it,” so to speak. While the default gateway IP was certainly the same – 10.100.100.254 – the MAC associated with that IP address was changed. Remember that Ethernet MAC addresses are assigned by manufacturers and are supposed to be unique to every Ethernet interface the world over. As a result, every host on Vlan 100 had a lying ARP cache. Hosts including my imaginary 10.100.100.10 would frame their traffic heading for the default gateway with a stale destination MAC stored in local ARP cache back when the old core switch was in production. They would then put that ill-formed frame on the wire where it would go…nowhere. Well technically, that frame went *everywhere*: the switches in the VLAN would try to deliver the frame, <a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_tech_note09186a00801d0808.shtml"  target="_blank">unicast-flooding</a> it out every port, where the frame would be ignored by everyone. No one in the VLAN had that MAC address anymore.</p>
<p>The core switch was new and there was nothing wrong with it, but the network was broken.</p>
<h3>Beat Your ARP Caches Into Submission</h3>
<p>So how do you, the unicorn-taming, leprechaun-catching network engineer, resolve this issue? With broken ARP caches all over the network, you look a bit of an idiot. <em>“Hey, network guy. Nice new switch that doesn’t work. You gonna fix it? Should we cut back to the old switch? I think I’m gonna call my boss because none of the servers are working. I need a hug!”</em> You’d like to hug him with a good swift smack to the side of his Windows-loving head with the dirty side of your keyboard (you know, all that cheezle and dead skin that falls in between the keys), but you’re better than that. No, you’re going to provide a *solution*.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Wait</strong>. As with any cache, the entries in an ARP cache have a time-to-live. Eventually, the TTL will expire, and hosts will start working again as they put fresh ARP requests on the wire and discover the new MAC. How long? That depends on the host OS, but generally speaking a period of a few hours. I’m too lazy to check at the moment, but 300 minutes comes to mind as pretty standard time.</li>
<li><strong>Clear ARP caches on critical devices by hand</strong> instead of waiting for TTL to expire. Most devices have a way to purge the ARP cache at the command line, forcing the device to put an ARP request on the network wire. This will force the ARP cache to be repopulated.</li>
<li>The “swatting a fly with a Buick” approach is to <strong>reboot the broken system</strong>. A reboot is never a graceful answer, but depending on your circumstances and who you’re working with, it’s a solution easy to understand for all involved, albeit not always expedient.</li>
<li><strong>Use a MAC address that doesn’t change from one switch to the other</strong>. I’m referring to a first-hop redundancy protocol, like <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Standby_Router_Protocol"  target="_blank">HSRP</a>. HSRP computes a MAC address that floats between members in a HSRP group; that computed MAC is always the same, varying only by VLAN number. Therefore, if you replace an HSRP switch with another HSRP switch, your hosts using the new switch as a default gateway won’t know the difference. <em>There’s nothing stopping you from running HSRP on your core switch, even if you’ve only got a single core.</em></li>
<li>Note that <strong>some devices use <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Resolution_Protocol#ARP_announcements"  target="_blank">gratuitous ARPs</a> to notify remote hosts about their new MAC addresses</strong>. This is commonly found in hosts using high-availability protocols where there is no floating MAC address, but merely ownership of a MAC shifting from one host to another. For example, F5 Networks load-balancers rely on a gratuitous ARP during a high-availability active/standby failover event to notify hosts of the change in roles from one load-balancer to the other.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>So let’s hear from the rest of you clever people. How to you beat the stale ARP cache problem?</em></strong></p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/security/ethan/breaking-network-24-atime/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Breaking The Network, One /24 At A Time</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/devang/emc-symmetrix-dmx4-supported-drive-types/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">EMC Symmetrix DMX-4: Supported Drive Types</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/ethan/highlights-trill-rfc5556/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Traveling East-West Might Get A Little Easier: Highlights from the TRILL RFC5556</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/ivan/vmotion-elephant-data-center/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">vMotion: an elephant in the Data Center room</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/devang/emc-symmetrix-dmx-device-type-covd-cache-virtual-device/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">EMC Symmetrix DMX device type, COVD: Cache Only Virtual Device</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/ethan/coping-mechanisms-lying-arp-cache/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<dc:creator>Devang Panchigar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[See the Drobo in Action, a wide coverage of various Drobo Performance Stats. Here are some stats collected with running Drobo as a direct attached storage and using some benchmarking tools to compile these results.  All the performance stats are collected using different criteria’s that can affect the performance of the Drobo. Also used various connection methods including USB and Firewire to obtain these stats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some discussions on twitter last week triggered the topic of performance relating to the Drobo’s. This is the 5<sup>th</sup> consecutive post on Drobo Series of products.</p>
<p><strong>To read other Drobo related posts: </strong></p>
<p><a href="../2009/11/24/some-very-interesting-articles-on-drobo/">Drobo S and DroboElite – Introduced 11/23/2009</a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/11/24/some-very-interesting-articles-on-drobo/">Some very interesting articles on Drobo S and DroboElite</a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/11/24/the-drobo-math/">The Drobo Math</a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/11/25/i-totally-love-my-drobo-but%e2%80%a6/">I totally love my Drobo but</a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>PLEASE SEE THE ATTACHED PDF FOR PERFORMANCE DATA</em></p></blockquote>
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<p>Here are some performance stats collected with running Drobo as a direct attached storage and using some benchmarking tools to compile these results.  All the performance stats are collected using different criteria’s that can affect the performance of the Drobo. Also used various connection methods including USB and Firewire to obtain these stats.</p>
<p>The entire series of tests have been performed using Mac OSX 10.6.2 host with either USB attached or Firewire attached to the Drobo.</p>
<p>These results are limited to the Drobo and cannot be compared to the <strong>Drobo Pro</strong> or <strong>Drobo Elite</strong> or <strong>Drobo S</strong>.</p>
<p>The test were carried out with using various combination of drives, rebuilt data protection, best-case scenario, worst-case scenario, 1 drive, 2 drives, 4 drives, different drive cache &amp; capacity.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://storagenerve.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/DROBO_PERFORMANCE_STATS.pdf"  target="_blank"><img src="http://storagenerve.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-01-at-1.13.14-AM-236x300.png" alt="Drobo Stats" width="236" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>Enjoy!!!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enhancements to EMC Symmetrix V-Max systems is possibly around the corner (FY09 Q4). FAST (Fully Automated Storage Tiering) is due this quarter and will be one of the most awaited software release in the enterprise storage space by EMC. Bundled together with FAST, possibly a new microcode version the enables FAST (its associated features) and other expected enhancements.]]></description>
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<p>Enhancements to EMC Symmetrix V-Max systems is possibly around the corner (FY09 Q4).</p>
<p><a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/gestalt/emc-symmetrix-vmax-fast-virtual/" >FAST (Fully Automated Storage Tiering)</a> is due this quarter and will be one of the most awaited software release in the enterprise storage space by EMC.</p>
<p>Bundled together with FAST, possibly a new microcode version the enables FAST (its associated features) and other expected enhancements.</p>
<p>Though this will be a major software release and functionality upgrade, I don&#8217;t think this would qualify as a 2nd generation EMC Symmetrix V-Max system.</p>
<p>But fully expect EMC to release its FAST v2 and V-Max Gen2 (possibly named like V-Max II or V-Max Ext) somewhere around Mid year 2010.</p>
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<p><strong>Here are a few new features to possibly expect on the EMC Symmetrix V-Max System</strong><strong>s this quarter.</strong></p>
<p>1. Introduction of FAST v1, which should allow automated data movement within a single Symmetrix V-Max system. Here are some features of FAST as discussed on <a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/gestalt/emc-symmetrix-vmax-fast-virtual/" >GestaltIT</a> and by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2009/04/1059-fully-automated-storage-tiering-fast.html"  target="_blank">Barry Burke (TSA)</a> on his blog.</p>
<p>2. FAST v1 data movement should possibly be policy driven around factors like time (how old is the data), SLA (promised SLA&#8217;s), Tier (from Tier 0 to Tier 1 to Tier 2) and possibly I/O or IOPS based.</p>
<p>3. FAST v1 should allow automated policy based data movement or prompt a user for manual intervention for data movement.</p>
<p>4. Do not expect FAST v1 to come for free, it will possibly be licensed based on the total number of TB&#8217;s in the storage subsystem.</p>
<p>5. Expect some integration between the IONIX platform and FAST v1 and possibly some very tight integration with future releases of FAST and IONIX.</p>
<p>6. Expect FAST and IONIX to integrate very tightly with Atmos through API&#8217;s and policies. We should expect to see this with FAST v2 and not with FAST v1.</p>
<p>7. So when does EMC retire Symmetrix Optimizer, with FAST v1 probably not, with FAST v2 probably yes.</p>
<p>8. 2TB SATA II drives will be introduced (According to a Keynote from Joe Tucci in NYC), though Joe Tucci didn&#8217;t mention what platforms the 2TB SATA II drives will be available on, it seems the V-Max upgrade would be the most logical platform.</p>
<p>9. The 2TB SATA II drive upgrade should make the V-Max 4 PB total storage (2400 drives x 2TB), possibly the single largest storage subsystem at an enterprise level.</p>
<p>10. RapidIO speed upgrade from 2.5 Gbps to 4 Gbps (interconnects between the engines) upgraded either through MBIE (new processors) and / or through microcode upgrades. <span style="color: #993300"><span style="color: #000000">EMC currently uses Serial RapidIO which supports 1.25Ghz to 3.0Ghz clocking speeds and can scale upto 10 Gbps I/O though EMC currently utilizes 2.5 Gbps as its interconnect speeds for the engines. </span><br />
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<p>11. Increased drive interconnect speeds. May be denser EFD&#8217;s, though I can&#8217;t speculate on it.</p>
<p>12. FC and FICON (Host Connects) port speeds upgrade from 4 Gbps to 8 Gbps</p>
<p>13. Interconnect between two separate Symmetrix V-Max Systems (8 Engines each per system) expanding into possibly 16 (max) engines. The more I think about this concept, the more it makes me feel that there are no added benefits of this architecture, rather it will add more complexities with data management and higher latency. Remember how the V-Max was initially marketed with having hundreds of engines and millions of IOPS, the only way to achieve that vision is through interconnects. The longer the distance, the more latency with cache and I/O. If Interconnects end up making in this release, limitation on the distance between two Symmetrix V-Max system bays would be around 100 feet.</p>
<p>14. To the point above, another way of possibly connecting these systems could merely be federation through external policy based engines. <a href="http://breathingdata.com"  target="_blank">Ed Saipetch</a> and <a href="http://storagenerve.com"  target="_blank">myself</a> have speculated that concept on <a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/gestalt/emc-unified-platform-storage-tiering/"  target="_blank">GestaltIT</a>.</p>
<p>15. With the use of larger drive size, possibly expect a cache upgrade. Currently the Symmetrix V-Max supports 1TB total cache (512GB usable), which may get upgraded to 2TB total cache (1024 GB usable).</p>
<p>16. New possible microcode version 5875 that will help bring features like FAST, SATA II drives and additional cache into the Symmetrix V-Max.</p>
<p>17. Processors: 4 x Quad Core Intel processors on V-Max engines may not get an upgrade in this release, it should possibly be with FAST v2 as a midlife enhancement next year.</p>
<p>18. Further enhancements related to FCoE support.</p>
<p>19. Upgrade of iSCSI interface on Symmetrix V-Max engines  from 1GB to 10GB (is now available with the Clariion CX4 platforms).</p>
<p>20. Really do not expect this to happen, but imagine RapidIO interconnects change to FCoE. Really not sure what made EMC to go with RapidIO instead of Infiniband 40 Gbps (which most of the storage industry folks think is dead) or FCoE with Engine interconnects, but if the engineers at EMC thought of RapidIO as a means to connect the V-Max engines, there has to be a reason behind it. <span style="color: #000000">Enginuity more or less doesn&#8217;t care about the underlying switching technology, making a switch from RapidIO to FCoE or Infiniband can be accomplished without a lot of pains. Though for customers already invested into RapidIO technology (with existing V-Max systems), it might be offline time to change the underlying fabric, which in most cases is unacceptable. </span></p>
<p>21. Virtual Provisioning on Virtual LUNs which is currently not supported with the existing generation of Microcode on V-Max systems.</p>
<p>22. Atmos currently is running as a beta release and we should expect a market release this Quarter. Should we expect to see an integration between V-Max and Atmos. I am not sure of any integration today.</p>
<p>23. A very interesting feature to have in the EMC Symmetrix V-Max would be system partitioning, where you can run half the V-Max engines at a certain Microcode level with a certain set of features and other half can be treated as a completely separate system with its own identity (almost like a Mainframe environment). Shouldn&#8217;t this be a feature of a modular storage array.</p>
<p>24. Symmetrix Management Console (SMC) and Vmware integration (like VMware aware Navisphere and Navisphere aware VMware). There is already quite a bit of support related to VMware in SMC for provisioning and allocation.</p>
<p>25. Also a much tighter integration between IONIX, FAST, SMC, Navisphere and Atmos may after all be the secret sauce, which would enable workflow, dataflow and importantly automation. Though do not expect this integration now, something to look forward for the next year.</p>
<p><strong>Summary</strong></p>
<p>Though I am still a bit confused on where FAST will physically sit.</p>
<p>FAST v1 can merely be a feature integrated within the Microcode, configurable &amp; driven through policy within the Symmetrix Management Console.</p>
<p>FAST v2 (Sometime Mid 2010) should support in-box and out-of-box (eg: Symmetrix to Clariion to Celerra to Centera) data movement through policy engine.</p>
<p><a href="http://breathingdata.com"  target="_blank">Ed Saipetch</a> and <a href="http://storagenerve.com"  target="_blank">myself</a> have speculated on <a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/gestalt/emc-unified-platform-storage-tiering/"  target="_blank">GestaltIT on how that may work.</a> Though after some thoughts, I do believe a policy engine can merely be a VM or a vAPP sitting outside the physical storage system in the Storage environment.</p>
<p>To promote the sales of the EMC Symmetrix V-Max systems, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2009/09/2022-free-migrations.html"  target="_blank">Barry Burke in his blog post</a> talks about Open Replicator, Open Migrator and SRDF / DM (Data mobility) are now available at no cost for customers purchasing a new EMC Symmetrix V-Max system, these are some of the incentives that EMC is offering and further promoting the sales of its latest generation Symmetrix technology.</p>
<p>It remains to be seen the path of success FAST will carve for Symmetrix V-Max systems.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this post we will cover some important aspects / properties / characteristics / differences between the EMC Symmetrix DMX-4 and EMC Symmetrix V-Max. It seems like a lot of users are searching on blog posts about this information. From a high level, I have tried to cover the differences in terms of performance and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this post we will cover some important aspects / properties / characteristics / differences between the EMC Symmetrix DMX-4 and EMC Symmetrix V-Max. It seems like a lot of users are searching on blog posts about this information.</p>
<p>From a high level, I have tried to cover the differences in terms of performance and architecture related to the directors, engines, cache, drives, etc</p>
<p>It might be a good idea to also run both the DMX-4 and V-max systems through IOmeter to collect some basic comparisons between the front end and coordinated backend / cache performance data.</p>
<p>Anyways enjoy this post, and possibly look for some more related data in the future post.</p>
<p><strong> EMC Symmetrix DMX-4                                EMC Symmetrix V-Max</strong></p>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Called EMC Symmetrix DMX-4</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Called EMC Symmetrix V-Max</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">DMX: Direct Matrix Architecture</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">V-Max: Virtual Matrix Architecture</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Max Capacity: 1 PB Raw Storage</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Max Capacity: 2 PB of Usable Storage</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Max Drives: 1900. On RPQ: 2400 max</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Max Drives: 2400</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">EFD’s Supported</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">EFD’s Supported</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Symmetrix Management Console 6.0</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Symmetrix Management Console 7.0</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Solutions Enabler 6.0</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Solutions Enabler 7.0</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">EFD: 73GB, 146GB, 200GB, 400GB</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">EFD: 200GB, 400GB</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">FC Drives: 73GB, 146GB, 300GB, 400GB, 450GB</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">FC Drives: 73GB, 146GB, 300GB, 400GB</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">SATA II: 500GB, 1000 GB</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">SATA II: 1000 GB</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">FC Drive Speed: 10K or 15K</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">FC Drive Speed: 15K</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">SATA II Drive Speed: 7.2K</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">SATA II Drive Speed: 7.2K</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Predecessor of DMX-4 is DMX-3</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Predecessor of V-Max is DMX-4</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">DMX-4 management has got a bit easy compared to the   previous generation Symmetrix</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Ease of Use with Management – atleast with SMC 7.0 or so   called ECC lite</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">4 Ports per Director</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">8 Ports per Director</td>
</tr>
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<td width="212" valign="top">No Engine based concept</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Engine based concept</td>
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<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">24 slots</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">The concept of slots is gone</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">1 System bay, 9 Storage bays</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">1 System bay, 10 Storage bays</td>
</tr>
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<td width="212" valign="top">No engines</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">8 Engines in one System (serial number)</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">64 Fiber Channel total ports on all directors for host   connectivity</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">128 Fiber Channel total ports on directors/engines for   host connectivity</td>
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<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">32 FICON ports for host connectivity</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">64 FICON ports for host connectivity</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">32 GbE iSCSI ports</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">64 GbE iSCSCI ports</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">Total Cache: 512GB with 256 GB usable (mirrored)</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Total Cache: 1024 GB with 512 GB usable (mirrored)</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Drive interface speed either 2GB or 4GB, drives auto   negotiate speed</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Drive interface speed 4GB</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Green color drive LED means 2GB loop speed, Blue color   drive LED means 4GB loop speed</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Only 4GB drive speed supported.</td>
</tr>
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<td width="212" valign="top">512 byte style drive (format)</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">520-byte style drive (8 bytes used for storing data check   info). Remember the clarion drive styles, well the data stored in both the   cases is different. The 8 bytes used with the Symmetrix V-Max are the data   integrity field based on the algorithm D10-TIF standard proposal</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">FAST: Fully Automated Storage Tiering may not be supported   on DMX-4’s (most likely since the support might come based on a microcode   level rather than a hardware level)</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">FAST: Fully Automated Storage Tiering will be supported later   this year on the V-Max systems</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Microcode: 5772 / 5773 runs DMX-4’s</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Microcode: 5874 runs V-Max</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Released in July 2007</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Released in April 2009</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">Concepts of Directors and Cache on separate physical slots   / cards</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Concept of condensed Director and Cache on board</td>
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<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">DMX-4 Timefinder performance has been better compared to   previous generation</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">300% better TImefinder Performance compared to DMX-4</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">No IP Management interface into the Service Processor</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">IP Management interface to the Service Processor, can be   managed through the customer’s Network – IP infrastructure</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Symmetrix Management Console is not charged for until   (free) DMX-4</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Symmetrix Management Console to be licensed at a cost   starting the V-Max systems</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">Architecture of DMX-4 has been similar to the architecture   of its predecessor DMX-3</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Architecture of V-Max is completely redesigned with this   generation and is completely different from the predecessor DMX-4</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Microcode 5772 and 5773 has be build on previous   generation of microcode 5771 and 5772 respectively</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Microcode 5874 has been build on base 5773 from previous   generation DMX-4</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">No RVA: Raid Virtual Architecture</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Implementation of RVA: Raid Virtual Architecture</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">Largest supported volume is 64GB per LUN</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Large Volume Support: 240GB per LUN (Open Systems) and   223GB per LUN (Mainframe Systems)</td>
</tr>
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<td width="212" valign="top">128 hypers per Drive (luns per drive)</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">512 hypers per Drive (luns per drive)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">Configuration change not as robust as V-Max Systems</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">V-Max systems introduced the concept of concurrent   configuration change allowing customers to perform change management on the   V-Max systems combined to work through single set of scripts rather than a   step based process.</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">DMX-4 does present some challenges with mirror positions</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Reduced mirror positions giving customers good flexibility   for migration and other opportunities</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">No Virtual Provisioning with RAID 5 and RAID 6 devices</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Virtual Provisioning allowed now with RAID 5 and RAID 6   devices</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">No Autoprovisioning groups</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Concept of Autoprovisioning groups introduced with V-Max   Systems</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">Minimum size DMX-4: A single storage cabinet system,   supporting 240 drives can be purchased with a system cabinet</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Minimum size V-Max SE (single engine) system can be   purchased with 1 engine and 360 drive max.</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">No concepts of Engine, architecture based on slots</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Each Engine consists of 4 Quad Core Intel Chips with   either 32GB, 64GB or 128GB cache on each engine with 16 front-end ports with   each engine. Backend ports per engine is 4 ports connecting System bay to   storage bay</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">Power PC chips used on directors</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Intel Quad Core chips used on Engines</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Powerpath VE support for Vsphere – Virtual machines for   DMX-4</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Powerpath VE supported for Vsphere – Virtual machines for   V-Max</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="212" valign="top">Concept of Backplane exists with this generation of   storage</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">V-Max fits in the category of Modular Storage and   eliminates the bottle neck of a backplane</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">DMX-4 was truly sold as a generation upgrade to DMX-3</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">V-Max systems have been sold with a big marketing buzz   around hundreds of engines, millions of IOPs, TB’s of cache, Virtual Storage</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Systems cannot be federated</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">The concept of Federation has been introduced with V-Max   systems, but systems are not federated in production or customer environments   yet</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Directors are connected to the system through a legacy   backplane  (DMX – Direct Matrix   Architecture).</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Engines are connected through copper RAPID IO interconnect   at 2.5GB speed</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">No support for FCOE or 10GB Ethernet</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">No support for FCOE or 10GB Ethernet</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">No support for 8GB loop interface speeds</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">No support for 8GB loop interface speeds</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Strong Marketing with DMX-4 and good success</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Virtual Marketing for Virtual Matrix (V-Max) since the   product was introduced with FAST as a sales strategy with FAST not available   for at least until the later part of the year.</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">No support for InfiniBand expected with DMX-4</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Would InfiniBand be supported in the future to connect   engines at a short or long distance (several meters)</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">No Federation</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">With Federation expected in the upcoming versions of   V-Max, how would the cache latency play a role if you had federation between   systems that are 10 to 10 meters away?</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Global Cache on Global Memory Directors</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Global Cache on local engines chips: again as cache is   shared between multiple engines, cache latency is expected as multiple   engines request this IO</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">DMX-4 is a monster storage system</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">The V-Max building blocks (engines) can create a much   larger storage monster</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">256GB total vault on DMX-4 systems</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">200GB of vault space per Engine, with 8 engines, we are   looking at 1.6TB of vault storage</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Performance on DMX-4 has been great compared to its   previous generation DMX, DMX2, DMX-3</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">IOPS per PORT of V-Max Systems</p>
<p>128 MB/s Hits</p>
<p>385 Read</p>
<p>385 Write<br />
IOPS for 2 PORT of V-Max Systems</p>
<p>128MB/s Hits</p>
<p>635 Read</p>
<p>640 Write</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">V-Max performs better compared to DMX-4 FICON</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">2.2 x Performance on FICON compared to DMX-4 Systems.</p>
<p>2 Ports can have as many as 17000 IOPS on FICON</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Large Metadata overhead with the amount of volumes,   devices, cache slots, etc, etc</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">A reduction of 50 to 75% overhead with the V-Max related   to metadata</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">SRDF Technology Supported</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">New SRDF/EDP (extended distant protection)</p>
<p>Diskless R21 passthrough device, no disk required for this   passthrough</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Symmetrix Management Console 6.0 supported, no templates   and wizards</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Templates and Wizards within the new SMC 7.0 console</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Total SRDF Groups supported 128</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Total SRDF Groups supported 250</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">16 Groups on Single Port for SRDF</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">64 Groups on Single Port for SRDF</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">V-Max comparison on Connectivity</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">2X Connectivity compared to the DMX-4</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">V-Max comparison on Usability (Storage)</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">3X usability compared to the DMX-4</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">DMX-4 was the first version of Symmetrix where RAID6   support was rolled out</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">RAID 6 is 3.6 times better than the DMX-4</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">RAID6 support on DMX-4 is and was a little premature</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">RAID 6 on V-Max (performance) is equivalent to RAID 1 on   DMX-4</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">SATA II performance on DMX-4 is better than V-Max</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">SATA II drives do not support the 520-byte style. EMC   takes those 8 bytes (520 – 512) of calculation for data integrity T10-DIF   standard proposal and writes it in blocks or chunks of 64K through out the   entire drive causing performance degradation.</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">SATA II performance on DMX-4 is better than V-Max</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">The performance of SATA II drives on V-Max is bad the   DMX-4 systems</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Fiber Channel performance better compared to DMX and   DMX-2’s.</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Fiber Channel performance compared to DMX-4 improved by   about 36%</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">DMX-4 start supporting 4GB interface host connectivity</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Fiber Channel performance 5000 IOPS per channel</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">RVA not available on DMX-4 platforms</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">RVA: Raid Virtual Architecture allows to have one mirror   position for RAID volumes allowing customers to used the rest of the 3   positions for either BCV’s, SRDF, Migration, etc, etc.</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">No MIBE and SIB with DMX-4. Rather the DMX-4 directors are   connected through a common backplane.</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">MIBE: Matrix Interface Board Enclosure connects the Odd   and the Evens or (Fabric A and Fabric B) Directors together. The SIB (System   Interface Board) connects these engines together using Rapid IO</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Director count goes from Director 1 on the left to   Director 18 (Hex) on the right</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Director count goes from 1 on the bottom to 16 (F) on the   top, based on each engine having 2 directors. 8 Engines, 16 Directors.</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">2 Directors failures if not in the same fabric or bus, rather   are not DI’s (Dual Initiators) of each other will not cause a system outage   or data loss / data unavailable</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Single engine failure (2 Directors) will not cause Data   Loss / Data Unavailable and the system will not cause an outage. Failed   components can be Directors, Engines, MIBE, PS’s, Fan, Cache in a single   Engine or 2 directors.</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top">Single loop outages will not cause DU</td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top">Single loop outages will not cause DU</td>
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<td width="212" valign="top"></td>
<td width="14" valign="top"></td>
<td width="217" valign="top"></td>
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<p>More architectural details related to drives, cache, directors, cabinets, Mibe, SIB, Service Processor to come in the V-Max architecture expansion and modularity post over the next week.</p>
<p>Enjoy!!!!</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/virtualization/simon/vmware-hot-add-memorycpu-support/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">VMware Hot-Add Memory/CPU Support</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/greg/show-39-unplugged-tech-field-day-wireless/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Show 39 – Unplugged on Tech Field Day Wireless</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/stephen/announcing-tech-field-day/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Announcing Gestalt IT Tech Field Day</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/networking/ivan/multihop-fcoe-101/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Multihop FCoE 101</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/virtualization/bill/mobile-phone-virtualization-future/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Mobile Phone Virtualization Futures</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/devang/emc-symmetrix-dmx4-symmetrix-vmax-basic-differences/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>Vaulting on EMC Symmetrix V-Max Systems</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 03:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Devang Panchigar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this blog post we will cover the Vaulting technology related to the EMC Symmetrix V-Max and the DMX-4 technology. Vaulting is a key feature added on DMX-3 series of machines, which was further extended into the DMX-4’s and now the Symmetrix V-Max Systems. With power outages or major power fluctuations or other critical environmental conditions (temperature, water, fire and environmental hazards) in data centers, the vaulting technology saves all the data during the shutdown of the machine offering additional safety features with the customer’s data in transit (channels, cache – memory, etc).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this blog post we will cover the Vaulting technology related to the EMC Symmetrix V-Max and the DMX-4 technology. Vaulting is a key feature added on DMX-3 series of machines, which was further extended into the DMX-4’s and now the Symmetrix V-Max Systems. With power outages or major power fluctuations or other critical environmental conditions (temperature, water, fire and environmental hazards) in data centers, the vaulting technology saves all the data during the shutdown of the machine offering additional safety features with the customer’s data in transit (channels, cache – memory, etc).</p>
<p>Vaulting wasn’t available on the Symmetrix 3, 5 &amp; 8 series of machines neither on the DMX nor the DMX-2 technology. With those machines, as a power hit, power fluctuation or environmental issue would be sensed; the BBU (battery backup unit) power would kick in keeping the machine in an online state for 3 minutes. During this time, all the I/O to and from the host is aborted; anything sitting in the cache is de-staged and written to disk drives. At that point, the entire machine goes into a DD (dead) state leaving itself offline (powered on but non-operational) or turning itself off if it’s a power outage.</p>
<p>With the DMX-3, DMX-4 and V-Max systems, since the number of cabinets has expanded; it becomes crucial that the data be saved before the Symmetrix turns itself offline or off. The concept of BBU has now changed to SPS (Standby Power Supply) modules that are locally attached to DAE’s (in Storage cabinets) and also in the System bay, that will keep the Symmetrix running for 5 minutes. During this time, the Symmetrix cuts off all I/O from the host, then lets the cache in the machine sync for consistency and then de-stage all the data from the cache – memory to the vault drives.</p>
<p>With the DMX-4 and V-Max as the memory is mirrored, it copies all the mirrored memory data to vault drives, creating literary two copies of the same data. In the later part of the blog post we will discuss what the rules of vaulting are and how is this technology deployed within the customers EMC Symmetrix storage environment.</p>
<p>The official definition of vault operation as referenced by EMC is: The vault operation is triggered when the Symmetrix system is powered down or transitioned offline or when environmental conditions initiate a vault situation.</p>
<p>During a power up procedure after the shutdown (vaulting), the hardware initializes and restores all the data in the cache &#8211; memory from the vault drives which verifies its integrity. Before another vault operation can be initialized, the SPS (Standby Power Supply’s) will have to be charged, which might take hours.</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 549px"><img src="http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2009/01/27/1233112232_9858/539w.jpg" alt="" width="539" height="340" /><p class="wp-caption-text">EMC Hopkinton Manufacturing (remember those HK serial numbers, they stand for HopKinton) The picture as published by Boston Globe</p></div>
<blockquote><p><strong> To read the blog post on EMC Serial Numbers, <a href="http://storagenerve.com/2008/10/13/emc-symmetrix-and-dmx-serial-numbers/" >please see here</a></strong></p></blockquote>
<p> The following are the Vault requirements within the V-Max Systems </p>
<ol>
<li>Each director pair (2 – odd / even) on the V-Max system will require 200GB of vault space, that is 40 x 5GB chucks of dedicated vault data space</li>
<li>The vault drives are M1 devices with not Raid or mirroring protection</li>
<li>The vault drive cannot to be used by any host and is reserved for the Symmetrix</li>
<li>Vault drives cannot be configured by Timefinder/Snap, virtual or dynamic sparing</li>
<li>The data space created by the vault drives will be almost equivalent to the size of the cache – memory installed on the machine</li>
<li>As mentioned in the previous blog post on enterprise flash drives, EFD’s cannot be used for vaulting operations</li>
<li>For permanent sparing, 5 vault drives per loop are essential</li>
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<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/devang/enterprise-flash-drives-efd-emc-symmetrix-vmax-systems/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Enterprise Flash Drives (EFD) on EMC Symmetrix V-Max Systems</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/devang/emc-symmetrix-permanent-sparing/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">EMC Symmetrix: Permanent Sparing</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/devang/emc-symmetrix-dmx4-components/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">EMC Symmetrix DMX-4: Components</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/devang/emc-symmetrix-20-years-making/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">EMC Symmetrix, 20 Years in the making</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/devang/emc-symmetrix-dmx4-symmetrix-vmax-basic-differences/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">EMC Symmetrix DMX-4 and Symmetrix V-Max: Basic Differences</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/devang/vaulting-emc-symmetrix-vmax-systems/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the last few weeks I've been using Zumodrive, another cloud storage offering.  This week Zumodrive released their iPhone client, which enables storage to be synchronised to an iPhone or iPod Touch device.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/stephen/wirespeed-10-gb-iscsi/attachment/391-revision/" rel="attachment wp-att-393" ><img class="size-full wp-image-393 alignright" title="zumo0" src="http://thestoragearchitect.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/zumo0.jpg?w=209&amp;h=70" alt="zumo0" width="209" height="70" /></a>Over the last few weeks I’ve been using <a href="http://www.zumodrive.com" >Zumodrive</a>, another cloud storage offering.  This week Zumodrive released their iPhone client, which enables storage to be synchronised to an iPhone or iPod Touch device.</p>
<h3>Background</h3>
<p>Zumodrive is a cloud storage service.  Data is stored on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://aws.amazon.com/s3/" >Amazon S3</a> and offers all the standard AES encryption for stored data and SSL transfer between the client and Zumodrive’s servers.  Client support covers both Mac and PC and now iPhone and you can access your data from multiple platforms at the same time.  Encryption is important; firstly you don’t want anyone snooping on your file transfers and secondly, your data is being added to a public, shared cloud storage service, so you want to ensure it isn’t accidentally or maliciously accessed by anyone.</p>
<h3>Secret Sauce</h3>
<p><a href="http://gestaltit.com/tech/storage/chris/cloud-storage-review-zumodrive/attachment/protocols-religions-heresy/" rel="attachment wp-att-394" ><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-394" title="zumo1" src="http://thestoragearchitect.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/zumo1.jpg?w=300&amp;h=188" alt="zumo1" width="300" height="188" /></a>What claims to make Zumodrive different is that only a portion of files are stored locally on the target devices, while the majority of data is kept in the cloud.  The Zumodrive software “intelligently” caches files, attempting to ensure files are available when needed.    I can’t see how this could be more complicated than a simple Least Recently Used (LRU) algorithm, but I wait to be corrected.  On each of your local devices you can specify the location and size of the cache; for PC and Mac clients, I can see no real benefit caching only a portion of data locally and keeping the rest in the cloud.  Local hard drives are cheap; I’ve found so far that the best way to use similar cloud services is to store the most frequently used data in the cloud and keep the infrequently used data on a PC drive, moving data into the cloud service as it becomes part of my “working set”. However, portable devices form the exception to this rule and I was really excited when I saw the availability of the iPhone client as this is the kind of device where having access to all your files and caching a subset could be good.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, so far, I’ve been disappointed.  Here’s why.</p>
<h3>Out of Touch</h3>
<p>I don’t have an iPhone, so my testing so far has been on my iPod Touch.  Synchronisation works well; I’ve dumped a number of podcasts onto my Z: drive and they appear on my iPod file list, so no problem there.  The issues come trying to access the files.</p>
<ul>
<li>Firstly, I can’t see all of my downloaded podcasts in the “Music” section and I can’t play music files from the “Files” section, so in one view I can see the files exist, but can’t play them there, in the other I can play them but can’t see them all.  Also, the “Music” section doesn’t make it clear whether it lists only locally cached files or not.  </li>
<li>Second, music files seem to play in a separate Zumodrive music player, not in the standard music player in the Touch.  The Zumo version doesn’t let me pause tracks and restart them where I left off.  More annoyingly, if another application starts while I’m listening to a track, then I lose my position.  This is totally impractical when listening to podcasts.  Also, as I use a Bluetooth dongle which integrates with the standard music player, I have to fiddle with pretending to play a standard music track in order to get this device to work.</li>
<li>Third, the iPod/iPhone version appears to be read-only.  I can’t delete files from my iPod Touch, which is really annoying.  This feature might be deliberate, but I’d like the option to override this and delete content from any of my devices; as I’ve listened to a podcast, I typically delete it.  I don’t want them hanging around.</li>
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<h3>Summary</h3>
<p>Zumodrive and content caching has a great future and its the visualisation of something I was hoping we’d have maybe 7 or 8 years ago.  As the iPhone client is a first release, I hope they quickly review feedback and fix issues like those I’ve raised.  When they do, Zumodrive will be  a “must-have” application.</p>
<p>I’m starting to keep track of cloud services I review.  You can find a summary spreadsheet of features <a href="http://gestaltit.com/tech/storage/martin/big/attachment/396-revision/" rel="attachment wp-att-397" >here</a>.  Let me know if there’s any service you’d like to see compared or features added to the list.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/chris/hitachi-enters-cloud/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Hitachi Enters The Cloud</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/chris/review-sun-storage-7000-unified-storage-system-part-iii/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Review: Sun Storage 7000 Unified Storage System – Part III</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/chris/personal-computing-diagnosing-performance-problems/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Personal Computing: Diagnosing Performance Problems</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/derek/synchronization-drobo-cloud/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Synchronization from Drobo to the cloud</a></li><li><a href="http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/bas/drobo-announces-drobo-fs/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Drobo announces their new Drobo FS</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://gestaltit.com/all/tech/storage/chris/cloud-storage-review-zumodrive/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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